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	<title>Comments on: OS X and iOS to Begin Merging Next Year, According to Analyst</title>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/03/os-x-and-ios-to-begin-merging-next-year/#comment-220555</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 20:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OS X and iOS have already been merging and both are based on the same Darwin core.

Whether Apple will move from an Intel/ARM mix to strictly ARM processors is the bigger issue.  Its unlikely Apple would move entirely to ARM for several reasons:
* Apple just invested heavily in Intel&#039;s powerful Thunderbolt technology
* Apple is already in serious litigation with its ARM cpu supplier Samsung.
* Intel cpu&#039;s can be developed to be as energy-efficient as ARM processors, particularly given Intel already makes the energy-efficient Atom processors.
* ARM processors technology simply can&#039;t be made as powerful a processor as Intel cpu&#039;s.

My prediction is Apple moves entirely to Intel cpu&#039;s given iOS apps already run on Apple&#039;s Intel hardware using the iOS simulator in X Code, Apple invested heavily in Intel&#039;s Thunderbolt, and Intel cpu&#039;s are significantly more powerful than ARM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OS X and iOS have already been merging and both are based on the same Darwin core.</p>
<p>Whether Apple will move from an Intel/ARM mix to strictly ARM processors is the bigger issue.  Its unlikely Apple would move entirely to ARM for several reasons:<br />
* Apple just invested heavily in Intel&#8217;s powerful Thunderbolt technology<br />
* Apple is already in serious litigation with its ARM cpu supplier Samsung.<br />
* Intel cpu&#8217;s can be developed to be as energy-efficient as ARM processors, particularly given Intel already makes the energy-efficient Atom processors.<br />
* ARM processors technology simply can&#8217;t be made as powerful a processor as Intel cpu&#8217;s.</p>
<p>My prediction is Apple moves entirely to Intel cpu&#8217;s given iOS apps already run on Apple&#8217;s Intel hardware using the iOS simulator in X Code, Apple invested heavily in Intel&#8217;s Thunderbolt, and Intel cpu&#8217;s are significantly more powerful than ARM.</p>
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		<title>By: Irene Kisala</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/03/os-x-and-ios-to-begin-merging-next-year/#comment-220374</link>
		<dc:creator>Irene Kisala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 01:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, yes, Barron&#039;s, that bastion of Mac news and rumours.

Call me when it actually happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes, Barron&#8217;s, that bastion of Mac news and rumours.</p>
<p>Call me when it actually happens.</p>
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		<title>By: iOS ir OS X sujungimas neišvengiamas? &#124; Mobinews.lt - Telekomunikacijų naujienos, straipsniai, apžvalgos.</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/03/os-x-and-ios-to-begin-merging-next-year/#comment-220232</link>
		<dc:creator>iOS ir OS X sujungimas neišvengiamas? &#124; Mobinews.lt - Telekomunikacijų naujienos, straipsniai, apžvalgos.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] naujos „OS X Lion“ operacinės sistemos išleidimo internete vėl pradėjo sklisti gandai, neva „Apple“ ruošiasi sujungti mobiliesiems įrenginiams specialiai sukurtą „iOS“ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] naujos „OS X Lion“ operacinės sistemos išleidimo internete vėl pradėjo sklisti gandai, neva „Apple“ ruošiasi sujungti mobiliesiems įrenginiams specialiai sukurtą „iOS“ [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Asad Quraishi</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/03/os-x-and-ios-to-begin-merging-next-year/#comment-219895</link>
		<dc:creator>Asad Quraishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alberto re. &#039;Mac is dying&#039;...have you looked at year over year unit sales growth for the iMac/MacBook/Pro line lately?

The technology is several years from convergence. There are many professionals - including designers at Apple, that use workstations. If you look at what Steve said about the PC, he never said it would go away.

What&#039;s much more likely is that the capabilities of iOS devices will approach the 80/20 boundary. That is - they will provide 80% of the functionality people need from a PC. At this point, only developers, designers, scientists, professionals will be buying Macs/PCs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alberto re. &#8216;Mac is dying&#8217;&#8230;have you looked at year over year unit sales growth for the iMac/MacBook/Pro line lately?</p>
<p>The technology is several years from convergence. There are many professionals &#8211; including designers at Apple, that use workstations. If you look at what Steve said about the PC, he never said it would go away.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s much more likely is that the capabilities of iOS devices will approach the 80/20 boundary. That is &#8211; they will provide 80% of the functionality people need from a PC. At this point, only developers, designers, scientists, professionals will be buying Macs/PCs</p>
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		<title>By: Alberto</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/03/os-x-and-ios-to-begin-merging-next-year/#comment-219792</link>
		<dc:creator>Alberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 07:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mac is dying…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mac is dying…</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Othen</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/03/os-x-and-ios-to-begin-merging-next-year/#comment-219764</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Othen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why should we have to jailbreak why cant apple provide a pro interface for those that want it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why should we have to jailbreak why cant apple provide a pro interface for those that want it</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Sykes</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/03/os-x-and-ios-to-begin-merging-next-year/#comment-219748</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Sykes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 02:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we may have to wait for iOSXI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we may have to wait for iOSXI.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorje Sylas</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/03/os-x-and-ios-to-begin-merging-next-year/#comment-219660</link>
		<dc:creator>Dorje Sylas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not smart to force customers to hack around lockouts to basic functions. Especially when Apple can keep changing the systems to remove those &quot;Jailbreaks&quot;. It&#039;s unstable and not something I&#039;d want to have to deal with as a even a small business IT.

Considering Apple&#039;s piss-poor management systems for iOS, I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d be supporting Apple computers at my work (a grade school) if that became the case. Even hiding the Library folder will make it harder to do support work. There many times I&#039;ve had to go into Application Support and replace/restore critical items for 3rd party programs.

Locking IT out of those tools is bad, bad, bad, bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not smart to force customers to hack around lockouts to basic functions. Especially when Apple can keep changing the systems to remove those &#8220;Jailbreaks&#8221;. It&#8217;s unstable and not something I&#8217;d want to have to deal with as a even a small business IT.</p>
<p>Considering Apple&#8217;s piss-poor management systems for iOS, I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d be supporting Apple computers at my work (a grade school) if that became the case. Even hiding the Library folder will make it harder to do support work. There many times I&#8217;ve had to go into Application Support and replace/restore critical items for 3rd party programs.</p>
<p>Locking IT out of those tools is bad, bad, bad, bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Name (required)</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/03/os-x-and-ios-to-begin-merging-next-year/#comment-219657</link>
		<dc:creator>Name (required)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.

No no no no no!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.</p>
<p>No no no no no!</p>
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		<title>By: G Johnson</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/03/os-x-and-ios-to-begin-merging-next-year/#comment-219616</link>
		<dc:creator>G Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First they came for the mainframes,
 and I didn&#039;t speak out because I had moved on from mainframes.

Then they came for the minis,
 and I didn&#039;t speak out because I was way past minis.

Then they came for the workstations,
 and I didn&#039;t speak out because I had eBayed my desktop,

Then they came for my laptop,
 and I had an appliance, but no computer.

           With apologies to Martin Niemöller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First they came for the mainframes,<br />
 and I didn&#8217;t speak out because I had moved on from mainframes.</p>
<p>Then they came for the minis,<br />
 and I didn&#8217;t speak out because I was way past minis.</p>
<p>Then they came for the workstations,<br />
 and I didn&#8217;t speak out because I had eBayed my desktop,</p>
<p>Then they came for my laptop,<br />
 and I had an appliance, but no computer.</p>
<p>           With apologies to Martin Niemöller.</p>
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		<title>By: Parakeet</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/03/os-x-and-ios-to-begin-merging-next-year/#comment-219614</link>
		<dc:creator>Parakeet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what OS X Lion is, a transitionary OS. The next OS will be even more transitionary, until the merge of the two. There isn&#039;t much reason to keep them separate if they become equally capable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what OS X Lion is, a transitionary OS. The next OS will be even more transitionary, until the merge of the two. There isn&#8217;t much reason to keep them separate if they become equally capable.</p>
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		<title>By: Parakeet</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/03/os-x-and-ios-to-begin-merging-next-year/#comment-219613</link>
		<dc:creator>Parakeet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can jailbreak the iPhone or iPad and access the unix command line on those devices, this will always be a possibility for those who need it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can jailbreak the iPhone or iPad and access the unix command line on those devices, this will always be a possibility for those who need it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dmitry Dulepov</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/03/os-x-and-ios-to-begin-merging-next-year/#comment-219608</link>
		<dc:creator>Dmitry Dulepov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Architecture is very similar but not the same. For example, key frameworks are different. Also iOS does not allow new frameworks. This last bit, of course, may change but I do not think framework differences between iOS and OS X will change. It would invalidate all apps for one of two platforms, thus, not going to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Architecture is very similar but not the same. For example, key frameworks are different. Also iOS does not allow new frameworks. This last bit, of course, may change but I do not think framework differences between iOS and OS X will change. It would invalidate all apps for one of two platforms, thus, not going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/03/os-x-and-ios-to-begin-merging-next-year/#comment-219604</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when do investment analysts get to speculate about where Apple is going with there technology? All they can do is draw trends lines past what has already occured leading to this dumb idea. The Mac isn&#039;t a hand held device - I&#039;m looking at a 27&quot; iMac right now and much of what works on my iPad doesn&#039;t even make sense on my big screen. These guys need to rewatch the WWDC &#039;11 Keynote and pay attention this time - especially to the slide about the desktop getting demoted to just another device (psst. not transformed into a handheld!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when do investment analysts get to speculate about where Apple is going with there technology? All they can do is draw trends lines past what has already occured leading to this dumb idea. The Mac isn&#8217;t a hand held device &#8211; I&#8217;m looking at a 27&#8243; iMac right now and much of what works on my iPad doesn&#8217;t even make sense on my big screen. These guys need to rewatch the WWDC &#8217;11 Keynote and pay attention this time &#8211; especially to the slide about the desktop getting demoted to just another device (psst. not transformed into a handheld!)</p>
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		<title>By: Dimitri</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/03/os-x-and-ios-to-begin-merging-next-year/#comment-219596</link>
		<dc:creator>Dimitri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d hope that a merger of iOS and OSX wouldn&#039;t strip the current functionality. Some people use their Mac for work like I do. I need the UNIX command line and all the UNIX utilities. If these were to go I&#039;d have to get some whitebox PC and run Linux. That&#039;d be a real shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d hope that a merger of iOS and OSX wouldn&#8217;t strip the current functionality. Some people use their Mac for work like I do. I need the UNIX command line and all the UNIX utilities. If these were to go I&#8217;d have to get some whitebox PC and run Linux. That&#8217;d be a real shame.</p>
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