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	<title>Comments on: Steve Jobs Refused Early Cancer Treatment, Regretted Alternative Therapies</title>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-refused-early-cancer-treatment-regretted-alternative-therapy/#comment-465232</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please ignore HarryFromMA, he&#039;s just a troll who spergs every corner of the internet with his right-wing crap.</description>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-refused-early-cancer-treatment-regretted-alternative-therapy/#comment-465231</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I have a few spelling errors in my response.&quot;

More like MENTAL errors lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have a few spelling errors in my response.&#8221;</p>
<p>More like MENTAL errors lol</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-refused-early-cancer-treatment-regretted-alternative-therapy/#comment-465230</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More like MENTAL errors lol</description>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, more mad ramblings from crazy HarryFromMA. Just ignore this little turd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, more mad ramblings from crazy HarryFromMA. Just ignore this little turd.</p>
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		<title>By: ShiSnyi</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-refused-early-cancer-treatment-regretted-alternative-therapy/#comment-449480</link>
		<dc:creator>ShiSnyi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with you D W !! 

HarryFromMA is someone who tries to correct others with his self-righteous ego-boasting attitude when actually he doesn&#039;t know anything. People without much experience in life are always like that.
Doctors are definitely mechanics with not only degrees, but with license to kill... lawfully. Specially cancer doctors.  They do everything to weaken the patients immune system and give them death sentences in the end. And they will come visit once in a while just to see if the patient is still breathing....

I&#039;d say, Steve Jobs was definitely correct in choosing the alternative treatments. The only mistake he made was not sticking to his original decision after 9 months.

Its impossible for a pancreatic patient to live longer than 5 years whatever treatment he gets. How did you think Steve Jobs survived 8 years if not for the alternative treatments he had taken??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with you D W !! </p>
<p>HarryFromMA is someone who tries to correct others with his self-righteous ego-boasting attitude when actually he doesn&#8217;t know anything. People without much experience in life are always like that.<br />
Doctors are definitely mechanics with not only degrees, but with license to kill&#8230; lawfully. Specially cancer doctors.  They do everything to weaken the patients immune system and give them death sentences in the end. And they will come visit once in a while just to see if the patient is still breathing&#8230;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say, Steve Jobs was definitely correct in choosing the alternative treatments. The only mistake he made was not sticking to his original decision after 9 months.</p>
<p>Its impossible for a pancreatic patient to live longer than 5 years whatever treatment he gets. How did you think Steve Jobs survived 8 years if not for the alternative treatments he had taken??</p>
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		<title>By: Malone</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-refused-early-cancer-treatment-regretted-alternative-therapy/#comment-328401</link>
		<dc:creator>Malone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 01:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jobs lated eight years from the time of initial diagnosis. my cousin was a 57 year old nurse and only lasted four months using conventional treatment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jobs lated eight years from the time of initial diagnosis. my cousin was a 57 year old nurse and only lasted four months using conventional treatment.</p>
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		<title>By: Sjayz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sjayz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SORRY, I MEANT &#039;I agree with &#039;Kent&#039;&#039;
SORRY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SORRY, I MEANT &#8216;I agree with &#8216;Kent&#8221;<br />
SORRY!</p>
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		<title>By: Sjayz</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-refused-early-cancer-treatment-regretted-alternative-therapy/#comment-300043</link>
		<dc:creator>Sjayz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with &#039;Sjayz&#039;. Alternative treatment is just another way of saying that something doesnt work well enough to be used in professional practices (e.g. Hospitals). IF these alternative treatments were the best way to cute something, then HOSPITALS.etc WOULD BE USING THEM!

Just my opinion, I&#039;m sure some alternative methods can be beneficial, but I just think they are not the best cure.

But Steve Jobs has left a huge legacy. I mean, think about how many people are probable reading this article using one of his products!

Good health to you all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with &#8216;Sjayz&#8217;. Alternative treatment is just another way of saying that something doesnt work well enough to be used in professional practices (e.g. Hospitals). IF these alternative treatments were the best way to cute something, then HOSPITALS.etc WOULD BE USING THEM!</p>
<p>Just my opinion, I&#8217;m sure some alternative methods can be beneficial, but I just think they are not the best cure.</p>
<p>But Steve Jobs has left a huge legacy. I mean, think about how many people are probable reading this article using one of his products!</p>
<p>Good health to you all!</p>
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		<title>By: kdxlivewire</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-refused-early-cancer-treatment-regretted-alternative-therapy/#comment-277615</link>
		<dc:creator>kdxlivewire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are very interesting comments in all of these replies. I tend to side with Bagou&#039;s comments and as a medical student myself lean towards this line of thinking. 
As I become more aware of the &quot;scientific approach&quot; using peer review as the main method of it&#039;s foundation I am starting to see that the alternatives to modern medicine do not see the light of day due to lack of interest to fund clinical trials, due to lack of profit for doing so. In most cases testimonials are the only proof that supports these possibly (or possibly not) brilliant treatments/preventions of disease. There are however many clinical trials of these treatments that do not see the inside covers of popular medical magazines. As for only trusting scientific trials, I would not put all my faith in the one basket, along with my eggs. They are sometimes riddled with inconsistencies and even if they are not, they are often misinterpreted to suit a readers own intentions. As for myself, I would love to know what sort of advice Steve took to try to combat his situation, more exactly, his diet, sleep patterns, blah blah blah... and all the rest that comes with such questions.

Take care everyone and good health.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are very interesting comments in all of these replies. I tend to side with Bagou&#8217;s comments and as a medical student myself lean towards this line of thinking.<br />
As I become more aware of the &#8220;scientific approach&#8221; using peer review as the main method of it&#8217;s foundation I am starting to see that the alternatives to modern medicine do not see the light of day due to lack of interest to fund clinical trials, due to lack of profit for doing so. In most cases testimonials are the only proof that supports these possibly (or possibly not) brilliant treatments/preventions of disease. There are however many clinical trials of these treatments that do not see the inside covers of popular medical magazines. As for only trusting scientific trials, I would not put all my faith in the one basket, along with my eggs. They are sometimes riddled with inconsistencies and even if they are not, they are often misinterpreted to suit a readers own intentions. As for myself, I would love to know what sort of advice Steve took to try to combat his situation, more exactly, his diet, sleep patterns, blah blah blah&#8230; and all the rest that comes with such questions.</p>
<p>Take care everyone and good health.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-refused-early-cancer-treatment-regretted-alternative-therapy/#comment-277313</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thoughtful response, but you made a glaring error: a person should never, ever, trust &quot;testimonies&quot; also known as &quot;anecdotes&quot;. They are the worst possible kind of evidence and in fact, they are not evidence at all but simply stories that might be compelling and interesting but offer no scientifically rigorous information. What the scientific method has taught us is that humans are very, very good at fooling ourselves into thinking treatments work when they really do nothing at all. As Carl Sagan once said, &quot;science is a way for us to keep from fooling ourselves&quot;. 

What a person should trust is the body of scientific literature, taken as a whole. Not 1 study or even a few studies, not 1 doctor or even a few doctors, but the entire body of literature. If one does this, you might still be wrong because there are still areas of uncertainty about many illnesses. But at least you give yourself the best possible chance of recovery and you will almost always avoid nonsensical &quot;alternative&quot; treatments and charlatans. 

There is really no such thing as &quot;alternative&quot; treatments, there are only treatments that have been shown to work in rigorous scientific studies and those that don&#039;t. The original &quot;alternative&quot; treatment, limes for scurvy, was accepted by the scientific community because it worked under scientifically rigorous conditions. Any treatment that can do that will be accepted, and become &quot;mainstream&quot;. What this means is that if someone calls a treatment &quot;alternative&quot; then they are either saying 1) it hasn&#039;t yet passed rigorous scientific testing or 2) it failed rigorous scientific testing. Not sure why someone would try a treatment that met either of those conditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thoughtful response, but you made a glaring error: a person should never, ever, trust &#8220;testimonies&#8221; also known as &#8220;anecdotes&#8221;. They are the worst possible kind of evidence and in fact, they are not evidence at all but simply stories that might be compelling and interesting but offer no scientifically rigorous information. What the scientific method has taught us is that humans are very, very good at fooling ourselves into thinking treatments work when they really do nothing at all. As Carl Sagan once said, &#8220;science is a way for us to keep from fooling ourselves&#8221;. </p>
<p>What a person should trust is the body of scientific literature, taken as a whole. Not 1 study or even a few studies, not 1 doctor or even a few doctors, but the entire body of literature. If one does this, you might still be wrong because there are still areas of uncertainty about many illnesses. But at least you give yourself the best possible chance of recovery and you will almost always avoid nonsensical &#8220;alternative&#8221; treatments and charlatans. </p>
<p>There is really no such thing as &#8220;alternative&#8221; treatments, there are only treatments that have been shown to work in rigorous scientific studies and those that don&#8217;t. The original &#8220;alternative&#8221; treatment, limes for scurvy, was accepted by the scientific community because it worked under scientifically rigorous conditions. Any treatment that can do that will be accepted, and become &#8220;mainstream&#8221;. What this means is that if someone calls a treatment &#8220;alternative&#8221; then they are either saying 1) it hasn&#8217;t yet passed rigorous scientific testing or 2) it failed rigorous scientific testing. Not sure why someone would try a treatment that met either of those conditions.</p>
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		<title>By: kostas</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-refused-early-cancer-treatment-regretted-alternative-therapy/#comment-262318</link>
		<dc:creator>kostas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 23:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I disagree in some points, I do believe that what you wrote is just beautiful. Go be a writer or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I disagree in some points, I do believe that what you wrote is just beautiful. Go be a writer or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Bagou</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-refused-early-cancer-treatment-regretted-alternative-therapy/#comment-262101</link>
		<dc:creator>Bagou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does everything have to be black or white?
I believe in scientific rigor and modern medicine: Some doctors are certainly the noblest, altruistic and smart people out there; yet does it not seem obvious that some are incompetent modern drug pushers prescribing antibiotics for mere headaches? Should you have blind fate in what your doctor´s says and not seek a second opinion, even from alternative sources. The individuals can be well intentioned, the science itself noble in definition, yet the market reality and corporate entity which is created can be quite profit-oriented, and by that I mean that they might put profit as their main and only goal. Our modern system treats the symptoms while actually generating the cause. Did you know that medical practice can very well be the third cause of death in the USA, while the two first ones are closely tied to tobacco consumption and poor food quality?  All three markets are often held by the same shareholders.

I also believe in traditional medicine aimed at understanding the underlining cause, or natural therapy aimed at preventing the illness in the first place. For sure, given the less centralized controlling bodies, many charlatans will try to sell you whatever green tea as the solution to your ills. But again, to play my own devil´s advocate, a green tea is probably less dangerous than indiscriminate wide use of antibiotics for common flu or anti-depressors for any behavioral alterations our kids may have. 

My suggestion is to trust no ONE; make your decision based on common sense,  contrasting opinion, testimonies, books, and even the internet, and of course your doctor as the main reference but not as God herself. Prevent as much as possible, avoid modern medicine and treatments (antibiotics, preventive tonsils removal, etc.), unless they are well explained to you, seem required, or are critical and very time sensitive (such as Jobs example). 

The only thing I don´t believe in is regret. That is truly useless. From my understanding, Jobs did not delay the treatment because he was told or believed there was a natural, safer and more convenient/reliable option. Not because of any philosophical conviction towards natural vs. modern medicine. He might have panicked, tried to ignore it, maybe snoozed hoping it would disappear by itself. Something we probably all have done at one point or another in our lives but maybe with a less dramatic impact, and for sure less public. Nine months is not so long for other diseases. Now people take it as a reference to discredit all “alternative” medicines. I believe this reasoning to be misleading and based on prejudices, maybe even motivated by private interests. 

Just a thought, I might be wrong. Good health to you all. 
Gab</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does everything have to be black or white?<br />
I believe in scientific rigor and modern medicine: Some doctors are certainly the noblest, altruistic and smart people out there; yet does it not seem obvious that some are incompetent modern drug pushers prescribing antibiotics for mere headaches? Should you have blind fate in what your doctor´s says and not seek a second opinion, even from alternative sources. The individuals can be well intentioned, the science itself noble in definition, yet the market reality and corporate entity which is created can be quite profit-oriented, and by that I mean that they might put profit as their main and only goal. Our modern system treats the symptoms while actually generating the cause. Did you know that medical practice can very well be the third cause of death in the USA, while the two first ones are closely tied to tobacco consumption and poor food quality?  All three markets are often held by the same shareholders.</p>
<p>I also believe in traditional medicine aimed at understanding the underlining cause, or natural therapy aimed at preventing the illness in the first place. For sure, given the less centralized controlling bodies, many charlatans will try to sell you whatever green tea as the solution to your ills. But again, to play my own devil´s advocate, a green tea is probably less dangerous than indiscriminate wide use of antibiotics for common flu or anti-depressors for any behavioral alterations our kids may have. </p>
<p>My suggestion is to trust no ONE; make your decision based on common sense,  contrasting opinion, testimonies, books, and even the internet, and of course your doctor as the main reference but not as God herself. Prevent as much as possible, avoid modern medicine and treatments (antibiotics, preventive tonsils removal, etc.), unless they are well explained to you, seem required, or are critical and very time sensitive (such as Jobs example). </p>
<p>The only thing I don´t believe in is regret. That is truly useless. From my understanding, Jobs did not delay the treatment because he was told or believed there was a natural, safer and more convenient/reliable option. Not because of any philosophical conviction towards natural vs. modern medicine. He might have panicked, tried to ignore it, maybe snoozed hoping it would disappear by itself. Something we probably all have done at one point or another in our lives but maybe with a less dramatic impact, and for sure less public. Nine months is not so long for other diseases. Now people take it as a reference to discredit all “alternative” medicines. I believe this reasoning to be misleading and based on prejudices, maybe even motivated by private interests. </p>
<p>Just a thought, I might be wrong. Good health to you all.<br />
Gab</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-refused-early-cancer-treatment-regretted-alternative-therapy/#comment-260364</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 23:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is regrettable.  

But... history has already recorded that the man single-handedly transformed our relationship with technology.  His influence has already started a total and complete revolution in the way humans expect technology to work for us.

The third millennium&#039;s first decade was filled to the very brim with Apple products that made us be different as a species.

So, it is regrettable for him, but his legacy has survived, and will survive along with the human species.

I smile thru my tears at his death.  He still lives on in the products that touch us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is regrettable.  </p>
<p>But&#8230; history has already recorded that the man single-handedly transformed our relationship with technology.  His influence has already started a total and complete revolution in the way humans expect technology to work for us.</p>
<p>The third millennium&#8217;s first decade was filled to the very brim with Apple products that made us be different as a species.</p>
<p>So, it is regrettable for him, but his legacy has survived, and will survive along with the human species.</p>
<p>I smile thru my tears at his death.  He still lives on in the products that touch us all.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-refused-early-cancer-treatment-regretted-alternative-therapy/#comment-260339</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 22:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surgery is the primary treatment for solid cancers, not drugs.  Get the tumor out early enough, and you&#039;ve got a reasonable shot at life.  Anything else is a gamble.

Whatever opinions people have about chemotherapy and drug companies, being opposed to life-saving surgery is just plain stupid.

It&#039;s sort of like getting shot with a bullet and telling a surgeon, &quot;Nah, don&#039;t sew me up, just let it bleed.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surgery is the primary treatment for solid cancers, not drugs.  Get the tumor out early enough, and you&#8217;ve got a reasonable shot at life.  Anything else is a gamble.</p>
<p>Whatever opinions people have about chemotherapy and drug companies, being opposed to life-saving surgery is just plain stupid.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sort of like getting shot with a bullet and telling a surgeon, &#8220;Nah, don&#8217;t sew me up, just let it bleed.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Aj</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-refused-early-cancer-treatment-regretted-alternative-therapy/#comment-259682</link>
		<dc:creator>Aj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sponsored by Pfizer.. nice.</description>
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