Comments on: Why Aren’t Apple Products Made in America? http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/21/why-arent-apple-products-made-in-america/ News, tips, software, reviews, and more for Mac OS X, iPhone, iPad Tue, 21 May 2013 21:37:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Wendi http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/21/why-arent-apple-products-made-in-america/#comment-504379 Wendi Thu, 28 Feb 2013 02:31:26 +0000 http://osxdaily.com/?p=26298#comment-504379 They've already said that they have more money than they know what to do with. What they should do is give it back to their costomers by lowering their prices about 40%. If they did something like that then it maybe worth a little forgiveness, but there just patting themselves on their backs right now a throwing their hands up in the air like, "I dont' know what to do." Screw Apple! They’ve already said that they have more money than they know what to do with. What they should do is give it back to their costomers by lowering their prices about 40%. If they did something like that then it maybe worth a little forgiveness, but there just patting themselves on their backs right now a throwing their hands up in the air like, “I dont’ know what to do.” Screw Apple!

]]> By: bill http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/21/why-arent-apple-products-made-in-america/#comment-487014 bill Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:30:12 +0000 http://osxdaily.com/?p=26298#comment-487014 because americans willl want more money than china and they charge less than americans some will work hard and some will get payed for doing nothing all day as i see and in china they will finish faster and will get more done than in america i now some americans are hard workers this is to show why they make it in china and not in america because americans willl want more money than china and they charge less than americans some will work hard and some will get payed for doing nothing all day as i see and in china they will finish faster and will get more done than in america i now some americans are hard workers this is to show why they make it in china and not in america

]]> By: JIM FROM TEXAS http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/21/why-arent-apple-products-made-in-america/#comment-455114 JIM FROM TEXAS Fri, 23 Nov 2012 11:52:41 +0000 http://osxdaily.com/?p=26298#comment-455114 AMEN SISTER!!! AMEN SISTER!!!

]]> By: JIM FROM TEXAS http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/21/why-arent-apple-products-made-in-america/#comment-455111 JIM FROM TEXAS Fri, 23 Nov 2012 11:46:23 +0000 http://osxdaily.com/?p=26298#comment-455111 Liam, Unfortunately it would problably like the States, they would give you what they want or you could just starve. They need to set minimum wage at the least at entry level or higher for the respective positions. Jim Liam,

Unfortunately it would problably like the States, they would give you what they want or you could just starve. They need to set minimum wage at the least at entry level or higher for the respective positions.

Jim

]]> By: JIM FROM TEXAS http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/21/why-arent-apple-products-made-in-america/#comment-455108 JIM FROM TEXAS Fri, 23 Nov 2012 11:42:09 +0000 http://osxdaily.com/?p=26298#comment-455108 John, I totally agree with you and the only reason for outsorcing is greed. I live in Houston and Texas instruments could do the jos jus as efffectively and so could the Toshiba plant here. I dont't buy anything from China unless there are'nt ant manufactured in the states and I just have to have it and I haven't been there yet. No one can tell me that chinese are smarter or better than Americans. So I boycott china......!!!!!!!!!! John, I totally agree with you and the only reason for outsorcing is greed. I live in Houston and Texas instruments could do the jos jus as efffectively and so could the Toshiba plant here.

I dont’t buy anything from China unless there are’nt ant manufactured in the states and I just have to have it and I haven’t been there yet.

No one can tell me that chinese are smarter or better than Americans.

So I boycott china……!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: john http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/21/why-arent-apple-products-made-in-america/#comment-396828 john Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:42:27 +0000 http://osxdaily.com/?p=26298#comment-396828 I am sorry, its not anymore cheap labor, its not only poor labor law. It is most important to have avaliability of resurces like rare earth materials (anytime, any moment, also great supply chain networks, communication network) uninterrupted electricity, gasoline and of course skilled, hardworking labor (doesn't mean cheap labor). To find cheap labor Companies could to to India or other South Asian countries, there you can find most cheap labor than any where in the world (probably some African countries too). I've worked with obscure Chinese SMEs, labor are relatively paid well and many companies are implementing 6S. So does by multi-national companies. of course there are many debacles like poor working condition /overwork, almost no weekend/holiday (monthly once). I am sorry, its not anymore cheap labor, its not only poor labor law. It is most important to have avaliability of resurces like rare earth materials (anytime, any moment, also great supply chain networks, communication network) uninterrupted electricity, gasoline and of course skilled, hardworking labor (doesn’t mean cheap labor). To find cheap labor Companies could to to India or other South Asian countries, there you can find most cheap labor than any where in the world (probably some African countries too). I’ve worked with obscure Chinese SMEs, labor are relatively paid well and many companies are implementing 6S. So does by multi-national companies. of course there are many debacles like poor working condition /overwork, almost no weekend/holiday (monthly once).

]]> By: Lewis http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/21/why-arent-apple-products-made-in-america/#comment-394290 Lewis Sat, 02 Jun 2012 01:20:37 +0000 http://osxdaily.com/?p=26298#comment-394290 The internet was hardly a product of anything counter-cultural. It was born by the military to control weapons. Also, I wouldn't consider the i-products to be anything innovative. They're basically radios with common electronic components that have all been around for a long time. The phones and pads, in my experience, are sought out and coveted by people of limited intellect, children, and other flavours of thoughtless drones that now saturate the U.S. Apple isn't Boeing. What they are now is nothing more than a fad, a product of the very intelligent innovators that the company has in their employ: marketing people. When the marketing loses the grip it has on the purse strings of all the retards, children, and office workers in the U.S., they'll vaporise. There's no need for any of them to think about investing back in the U.S. They don't have anything to offer. The internet was hardly a product of anything counter-cultural. It was born by the military to control weapons.

Also, I wouldn’t consider the i-products to be anything innovative. They’re basically radios with common electronic components that have all been around for a long time. The phones and pads, in my experience, are sought out and coveted by people of limited intellect, children, and other flavours of thoughtless drones that now saturate the U.S.

Apple isn’t Boeing. What they are now is nothing more than a fad, a product of the very intelligent innovators that the company has in their employ: marketing people. When the marketing loses the grip it has on the purse strings of all the retards, children, and office workers in the U.S., they’ll vaporise. There’s no need for any of them to think about investing back in the U.S. They don’t have anything to offer.

]]> By: Amy http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/21/why-arent-apple-products-made-in-america/#comment-388959 Amy Thu, 17 May 2012 09:24:03 +0000 http://osxdaily.com/?p=26298#comment-388959 90 % of iPhone's parts were NOT made in the U.S., but in China. Google it. Everybody knows that. Who are you trying to fool ? As for the high end jobs that require highly skilled engineers, there are only a FEW in the world. Open your eyes and look at the economy. Ever since 2007 when Apple introduced the iPhone, many jobs have been cut everywhere in the World. Thanks Steve Jobs, you've made a FEW people in this world extremely rich, but put everyone OUT OF A JOB. He and Apple helped to eliminate the middle class in North America and offered NO CHANCE for future generations and the rest of the world to progress. I don't know about the rest of the people, but I would rather have a good paying job and enjoy my life instead of being stuck with an iPhone while working in a crappy low paying job. Before iPhone showed up, life was far better in North America. Now all the good jobs end up in China, a country without morales or values. So next time when you decide to buy Apple products, consider the economic implications that will inflict upon you in North America and the rest the World. While at the same time help propel Communist China, to become a World Super Power. 90 % of iPhone’s parts were NOT made in the U.S., but in China. Google it. Everybody knows that. Who are you trying to fool ? As for the high end jobs that require highly skilled engineers, there are only a FEW in the world.

Open your eyes and look at the economy. Ever since 2007 when Apple introduced the iPhone, many jobs have been cut everywhere in the World. Thanks Steve Jobs, you’ve made a FEW people in this world extremely rich, but put everyone OUT OF A JOB. He and Apple helped to eliminate the middle class in North America and offered NO CHANCE for future generations and the rest of the world to progress.

I don’t know about the rest of the people, but I would rather have a good paying job and enjoy my life instead of being stuck with an iPhone while working in a crappy low paying job. Before iPhone showed up, life was far better in North America. Now all the good jobs end up in China, a country without morales or values.

So next time when you decide to buy Apple products, consider the economic implications that will inflict upon you in North America and the rest the World. While at the same time help propel Communist China, to become a World Super Power.

]]> By: Silvia http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/21/why-arent-apple-products-made-in-america/#comment-375975 Silvia Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:17:13 +0000 http://osxdaily.com/?p=26298#comment-375975 Actually if our education system is so bad as they say why do so many foreign students (Chinese) come to the US for education, including engineering? It's not that Americans don't want the education it's that universities make more money off of foreign students therefore replacing a seat that could be filled by a American educated student with grades just as competitive with the foreign student that will be charged twice or three times as much. So once again the greed of money brings down our own. Actually if our education system is so bad as they say why do so many foreign students (Chinese) come to the US for education, including engineering? It’s not that Americans don’t want the education it’s that universities make more money off of foreign students therefore replacing a seat that could be filled by a American educated student with grades just as competitive with the foreign student that will be charged twice or three times as much. So once again the greed of money brings down our own.

]]> By: Watch Nightline’s “Inside Apple’s Chinese Foxconn Factories” [Video] http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/21/why-arent-apple-products-made-in-america/#comment-341682 Watch Nightline’s “Inside Apple’s Chinese Foxconn Factories” [Video] Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:25:51 +0000 http://osxdaily.com/?p=26298#comment-341682 [...] you found the recent New York Times pieces on the making of Apple products to be interesting and “Mr Daisey and the [...] [...] you found the recent New York Times pieces on the making of Apple products to be interesting and “Mr Daisey and the [...]

]]> By: Rafael http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/21/why-arent-apple-products-made-in-america/#comment-331067 Rafael Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:22:43 +0000 http://osxdaily.com/?p=26298#comment-331067 to say that apple moved over seas only because they were able to find more skilled workers in china as opposed to here in the US to over see 200 000 workers... its BS. they could have kept their factory here and imported the talent they say they needed, the only difference is.. here in the US you can not pay someone 1 dollar an hour to put your ipad together, while in china you can. include logistic costs and you are still way ahead... my question is.. why am i paying 1800 dollars for my mac when it was built for much, much less. where is the value in that.. for a product to cost as much as it does, i would assume that it should be made here in the USA. i love my mac, but i am willing to give up my mac for a company that would make a product here in the USA... buying american and demanding american is the only way we can help this country. we can not continue to turn our backs on our own people for cheaper products. to say that apple moved over seas only because they were able to find more skilled workers in china as opposed to here in the US to over see 200 000 workers… its BS. they could have kept their factory here and imported the talent they say they needed, the only difference is.. here in the US you can not pay someone 1 dollar an hour to put your ipad together, while in china you can. include logistic costs and you are still way ahead… my question is.. why am i paying 1800 dollars for my mac when it was built for much, much less. where is the value in that.. for a product to cost as much as it does, i would assume that it should be made here in the USA. i love my mac, but i am willing to give up my mac for a company that would make a product here in the USA… buying american and demanding american is the only way we can help this country. we can not continue to turn our backs on our own people for cheaper products.

]]> By: ldtowers http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/21/why-arent-apple-products-made-in-america/#comment-323480 ldtowers Thu, 26 Jan 2012 20:23:22 +0000 http://osxdaily.com/?p=26298#comment-323480 It isn't unions per se that is the problem. Labor in other countries is being paid for pennies on the dollar compared to American workers. That's not a union issue. Americans don't want to work for chump change. It isn’t unions per se that is the problem. Labor in other countries is being paid for pennies on the dollar compared to American workers. That’s not a union issue. Americans don’t want to work for chump change.

]]> By: Peter K http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/21/why-arent-apple-products-made-in-america/#comment-322321 Peter K Wed, 25 Jan 2012 09:36:06 +0000 http://osxdaily.com/?p=26298#comment-322321 It's not just cost of labour though is it. Look at the case of Germany. Higher wages and strong unions and yet a likewise strong economy based on high tech engineering exports. What accounts for this is a highly skilled workforce but also companies that plan, invest and innovate for the long term. They also have a raft of middle sized companies that just make specific components of the larger items they also manufacture in the country. As a result, there's already an existing network of suppliers companies can draw on. To me, it sounds like the networks (financial and cultural) required to create a manufacturing economy in the US have broken down. It's a long game, not there for a quick buck. You can't make this happen if you're looking to create value from asset stripping. An economy based on consumption alone can't be sustained long term. Without an industrial base, the US will no longer be a super power. It’s not just cost of labour though is it. Look at the case of Germany. Higher wages and strong unions and yet a likewise strong economy based on high tech engineering exports. What accounts for this is a highly skilled workforce but also companies that plan, invest and innovate for the long term. They also have a raft of middle sized companies that just make specific components of the larger items they also manufacture in the country. As a result, there’s already an existing network of suppliers companies can draw on. To me, it sounds like the networks (financial and cultural) required to create a manufacturing economy in the US have broken down. It’s a long game, not there for a quick buck. You can’t make this happen if you’re looking to create value from asset stripping. An economy based on consumption alone can’t be sustained long term. Without an industrial base, the US will no longer be a super power.

]]> By: Liam Benson http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/21/why-arent-apple-products-made-in-america/#comment-322242 Liam Benson Wed, 25 Jan 2012 07:41:44 +0000 http://osxdaily.com/?p=26298#comment-322242 LOL DONT COME TO AUSTRALIA!!! LABOUR IS SOOO EXPENSIVE!!!If they took away minimum wage away we would have a better australia :) LOL DONT COME TO AUSTRALIA!!! LABOUR IS SOOO EXPENSIVE!!!If they took away minimum wage away we would have a better australia :)

]]> By: Desi http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/21/why-arent-apple-products-made-in-america/#comment-322190 Desi Wed, 25 Jan 2012 04:39:50 +0000 http://osxdaily.com/?p=26298#comment-322190 I would, so stop assuming. Many people of means would. But it would not be sold as much and be more of a premium product which is fine. I would rather pay 1800 for an IPAD and know it was made in the USA and that it provided AMERICAN jobs than 920 (which I did for my son's) and to know it was NOT helping my country. In fact, I wish I had known about this sooner as I would NOT have bought my son an iphone 4 or his Ipad. I hate this company now!!!! I am a BIG believer in buying American and thought Jobs would have kept that going. I would, so stop assuming. Many people of means would. But it would not be sold as much and be more of a premium product which is fine. I would rather pay 1800 for an IPAD and know it was made in the USA and that it provided AMERICAN jobs than 920 (which I did for my son’s) and to know it was NOT helping my country. In fact, I wish I had known about this sooner as I would NOT have bought my son an iphone 4 or his Ipad. I hate this company now!!!! I am a BIG believer in buying American and thought Jobs would have kept that going.

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