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		<title>By: doctorsean</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2012/08/01/install-java-in-os-x-mountain-lion/#comment-469591</link>
		<dc:creator>doctorsean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 11:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was so painless! Many thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was so painless! Many thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Moose</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2012/08/01/install-java-in-os-x-mountain-lion/#comment-463286</link>
		<dc:creator>Moose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree on HTML5, no plugins, but wait:

1) for now, flash is about 40% more compatible then html5.

1) it&#039;s very expensive to develop rich web apps in js because of all the time wasted on fallbacks, that will within a couple of years, hopefully, be useless bloatware inside your code. I&#039;m talking 80 - 90% of your time. Fallbacks often require Flash btw.

2) I wonder why you think javascript is safer or even better then java, as3 or any other language. (for now it&#039;s very very very slow on iphone and ipad and has infantile syntax, no datatyping, not convenient to write OOP) 

3) The  still sucks,  and  totally suck, all html5 games suck very much on ios and take you back to the nineties. The persons making html5 slightly useable all derive from the Flash community, like mr. doob (three.js) and grant skinner (create.js). Kudos!

The real reason Flash was banned on ios is that the appstore would be redundant otherwise. Apple knows it will take HTML5 years to catch up with Flash because they themselves, amongst others though, are in charge of the W3C. That&#039;s why you have to learn ios, which is a very hard to master and rapidly changing language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree on HTML5, no plugins, but wait:</p>
<p>1) for now, flash is about 40% more compatible then html5.</p>
<p>1) it&#8217;s very expensive to develop rich web apps in js because of all the time wasted on fallbacks, that will within a couple of years, hopefully, be useless bloatware inside your code. I&#8217;m talking 80 &#8211; 90% of your time. Fallbacks often require Flash btw.</p>
<p>2) I wonder why you think javascript is safer or even better then java, as3 or any other language. (for now it&#8217;s very very very slow on iphone and ipad and has infantile syntax, no datatyping, not convenient to write OOP) </p>
<p>3) The  still sucks,  and  totally suck, all html5 games suck very much on ios and take you back to the nineties. The persons making html5 slightly useable all derive from the Flash community, like mr. doob (three.js) and grant skinner (create.js). Kudos!</p>
<p>The real reason Flash was banned on ios is that the appstore would be redundant otherwise. Apple knows it will take HTML5 years to catch up with Flash because they themselves, amongst others though, are in charge of the W3C. That&#8217;s why you have to learn ios, which is a very hard to master and rapidly changing language.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbertvdd</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2012/08/01/install-java-in-os-x-mountain-lion/#comment-461354</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbertvdd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 22:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know you posted your reply more than two months ago and you&#039;ll probably never read my reply, but I just have to reply.

I&#039;m wondering what bank you&#039;re using. How can a bank ever use Java (or Flash or any other plug-in)? A bank should be all about security, so they should use any plug-ins. If my bank (or any other company) would force me to use any plug-ins I&#039;d immediately switch to another bank (or insurance company or whatever company).

I&#039;ve never used Java and I&#039;m really happy Apple finally decided to not install Flash and Java by default. I don&#039;t need them and I don&#039;t want them on my systems. I&#039;ve never used Java, but having it installed is a big security risk, so I&#039;m glad it&#039;s finally gone. I&#039;ve used Flash before, but since Apple released Lion without Flash pre-installed I&#039;ve never installed it myself. More and more websites use HTML5 and I can easily live without those websites that require Flash.

Using plug-ins in a browsers was the most stupid idea ever. Not only is it a bad idea because of the security risks, but also because of compatibility. A website should work on every device, no matter what operating system or browser is being used. Java, Flash and Silverlight are the most used plugins. None of them are available for iOS (luckily!), I think Android only has Flash, Linux has a crappy implementation of Silverlight (Moonlight) which is absolutely useless.

In my opinion you&#039;re a incompetent and useless web developer if you use any plug-ins. It&#039;s absolutely ridiculous to use Java, Flash, Silverlight or any other plug-ins. How about people running iOS, Android, Linux, BSD, a Chromebook or whatever. Even if I made my own operating system and browser I should still be able to use every website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know you posted your reply more than two months ago and you&#8217;ll probably never read my reply, but I just have to reply.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering what bank you&#8217;re using. How can a bank ever use Java (or Flash or any other plug-in)? A bank should be all about security, so they should use any plug-ins. If my bank (or any other company) would force me to use any plug-ins I&#8217;d immediately switch to another bank (or insurance company or whatever company).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never used Java and I&#8217;m really happy Apple finally decided to not install Flash and Java by default. I don&#8217;t need them and I don&#8217;t want them on my systems. I&#8217;ve never used Java, but having it installed is a big security risk, so I&#8217;m glad it&#8217;s finally gone. I&#8217;ve used Flash before, but since Apple released Lion without Flash pre-installed I&#8217;ve never installed it myself. More and more websites use HTML5 and I can easily live without those websites that require Flash.</p>
<p>Using plug-ins in a browsers was the most stupid idea ever. Not only is it a bad idea because of the security risks, but also because of compatibility. A website should work on every device, no matter what operating system or browser is being used. Java, Flash and Silverlight are the most used plugins. None of them are available for iOS (luckily!), I think Android only has Flash, Linux has a crappy implementation of Silverlight (Moonlight) which is absolutely useless.</p>
<p>In my opinion you&#8217;re a incompetent and useless web developer if you use any plug-ins. It&#8217;s absolutely ridiculous to use Java, Flash, Silverlight or any other plug-ins. How about people running iOS, Android, Linux, BSD, a Chromebook or whatever. Even if I made my own operating system and browser I should still be able to use every website.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2012/08/01/install-java-in-os-x-mountain-lion/#comment-447933</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 09:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that... and your qualifications are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that&#8230; and your qualifications are?</p>
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		<title>By: brandlnxx</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2012/08/01/install-java-in-os-x-mountain-lion/#comment-446797</link>
		<dc:creator>brandlnxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 16:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how do you get java SE 7 on mountain lion?? there are no answers to this anywhere on the internet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how do you get java SE 7 on mountain lion?? there are no answers to this anywhere on the internet!</p>
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		<title>By: schetzer</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2012/08/01/install-java-in-os-x-mountain-lion/#comment-443904</link>
		<dc:creator>schetzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instructions to update DTS dbsign universal web signer is here: http://militarycac.com/lion.htm#DTS_uses_Java .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instructions to update DTS dbsign universal web signer is here: <a href="http://militarycac.com/lion.htm#DTS_uses_Java" rel="nofollow">http://militarycac.com/lion.htm#DTS_uses_Java</a> .</p>
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		<title>By: amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 23:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sence there are a couple of minecraft players here this is my probelm, trying to run tekkit and every time i go to open the game this happens what can i do to fix it. also in my java options it gives me the choice of java 7 and two java 6 one 32 bit and one 64 bit
--- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 5c907607 --------
Generated 10/1/12 6:31 PM

Minecraft: Minecraft 1.2.5
OS: Mac OS X (x86_64) version 10.8.2
Java: 1.6.0_35, Apple Inc.
VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (mixed mode), Apple Inc.
LWJGL: 2.4.2
OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M OpenGL Engine version 2.1 NVIDIA-8.0.61, NVIDIA Corporation

java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Slot 194 is already occupied by immibis.tubestuff.BlockTubestuff@5081876b when adding immibis.tubestuff.BlockTubestuff@67e1ab17
	at pb.(Block.java:251)
	at agy.(BlockContainer.java:7)
	at immibis.core.BlockCombined.(BlockCombined.java:35)
	at immibis.tubestuff.BlockTubestuff.(BlockTubestuff.java:17)
	at mod_TubeStuff$1.registerBlock(mod_TubeStuff.java:65)
	at immibis.core.CoreProxy.RegisterBlockID(CoreProxy.java:31)
	at mod_TubeStuff.load(mod_TubeStuff.java:62)
	at cpw.mods.fml.common.modloader.ModLoaderModContainer.init(ModLoaderModContainer.java:356)
	at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.modInit(Loader.java:273)
	at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.initializeMods(Loader.java:628)
	at cpw.mods.fml.client.FMLClientHandler.onLoadComplete(FMLClientHandler.java:223)
	at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.a(Minecraft.java:429)
	at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(Minecraft.java:738)
	at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:680)
--- END ERROR REPORT 8d87b24f ----------</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sence there are a couple of minecraft players here this is my probelm, trying to run tekkit and every time i go to open the game this happens what can i do to fix it. also in my java options it gives me the choice of java 7 and two java 6 one 32 bit and one 64 bit<br />
&#8212; BEGIN ERROR REPORT 5c907607 &#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Generated 10/1/12 6:31 PM</p>
<p>Minecraft: Minecraft 1.2.5<br />
OS: Mac OS X (x86_64) version 10.8.2<br />
Java: 1.6.0_35, Apple Inc.<br />
VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (mixed mode), Apple Inc.<br />
LWJGL: 2.4.2<br />
OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M OpenGL Engine version 2.1 NVIDIA-8.0.61, NVIDIA Corporation</p>
<p>java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Slot 194 is already occupied by immibis.tubestuff.BlockTubestuff@5081876b when adding immibis.tubestuff.BlockTubestuff@67e1ab17<br />
	at pb.(Block.java:251)<br />
	at agy.(BlockContainer.java:7)<br />
	at immibis.core.BlockCombined.(BlockCombined.java:35)<br />
	at immibis.tubestuff.BlockTubestuff.(BlockTubestuff.java:17)<br />
	at mod_TubeStuff$1.registerBlock(mod_TubeStuff.java:65)<br />
	at immibis.core.CoreProxy.RegisterBlockID(CoreProxy.java:31)<br />
	at mod_TubeStuff.load(mod_TubeStuff.java:62)<br />
	at cpw.mods.fml.common.modloader.ModLoaderModContainer.init(ModLoaderModContainer.java:356)<br />
	at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.modInit(Loader.java:273)<br />
	at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.initializeMods(Loader.java:628)<br />
	at cpw.mods.fml.client.FMLClientHandler.onLoadComplete(FMLClientHandler.java:223)<br />
	at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.a(Minecraft.java:429)<br />
	at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(Minecraft.java:738)<br />
	at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:680)<br />
&#8212; END ERROR REPORT 8d87b24f &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
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		<title>By: Perry</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2012/08/01/install-java-in-os-x-mountain-lion/#comment-432460</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 14:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your attempts fail to install Java updates with Mountain Lion, try quitting all browsers and internet-connected applications and install again. (This is noted in Apple&#039;s support, but not in any windows from automated software updates.) 

Doing this worked for me after several failed attempts. Slightly off topic, but found this thread when searching for answers to reinstalling with ML for use with Adobe software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your attempts fail to install Java updates with Mountain Lion, try quitting all browsers and internet-connected applications and install again. (This is noted in Apple&#8217;s support, but not in any windows from automated software updates.) </p>
<p>Doing this worked for me after several failed attempts. Slightly off topic, but found this thread when searching for answers to reinstalling with ML for use with Adobe software.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfenfluffy</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2012/08/01/install-java-in-os-x-mountain-lion/#comment-432045</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolfenfluffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 13:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the topic of Minecraft, my boys play it and I&#039;ve had no end to stability issues on our Pc as a result. I&#039;m fairly convinced it is the fault of minecraft, unsigned jar files, etc.

Now that we have a Mac, I don&#039;t want to install it at all for fear of messing something up, though I hear its okay. Do you have any thoughts or recommendations for good resources on this topic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the topic of Minecraft, my boys play it and I&#8217;ve had no end to stability issues on our Pc as a result. I&#8217;m fairly convinced it is the fault of minecraft, unsigned jar files, etc.</p>
<p>Now that we have a Mac, I don&#8217;t want to install it at all for fear of messing something up, though I hear its okay. Do you have any thoughts or recommendations for good resources on this topic?</p>
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		<title>By: Carsten Legaard</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2012/08/01/install-java-in-os-x-mountain-lion/#comment-430534</link>
		<dc:creator>Carsten Legaard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 19:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many people in this world does not visit or use an internet bank or retirement fund site from time to time?
Well, they all need Java if Apple likes it or not. So be careful saying &quot;I don&#039;t need that&quot;.

I need it a lot and is left out in the cold once again by Apple. Like Mel I can&#039;t download the necessary Java Software. Why does Apple again  think (very differently) they shall decide which software I need to use; why do they again believe they know better about MY security and MY private affairs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many people in this world does not visit or use an internet bank or retirement fund site from time to time?<br />
Well, they all need Java if Apple likes it or not. So be careful saying &#8220;I don&#8217;t need that&#8221;.</p>
<p>I need it a lot and is left out in the cold once again by Apple. Like Mel I can&#8217;t download the necessary Java Software. Why does Apple again  think (very differently) they shall decide which software I need to use; why do they again believe they know better about MY security and MY private affairs?</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2012/08/01/install-java-in-os-x-mountain-lion/#comment-425749</link>
		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently updated to ML and tried to download Java using both methods you describe. Either way I receive a message saying &quot;This update can&#039;t be installed. The update could not be expanded, and may have been corrupted during downloading. The update will be downloaded and checked again the next time that Software Update runs.&quot; When I check for software updates, there are none. Any thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently updated to ML and tried to download Java using both methods you describe. Either way I receive a message saying &#8220;This update can&#8217;t be installed. The update could not be expanded, and may have been corrupted during downloading. The update will be downloaded and checked again the next time that Software Update runs.&#8221; When I check for software updates, there are none. Any thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Siamak</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2012/08/01/install-java-in-os-x-mountain-lion/#comment-424335</link>
		<dc:creator>Siamak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>man, thanks a lot, I really needed that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man, thanks a lot, I really needed that!</p>
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		<title>By: OBAMA</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2012/08/01/install-java-in-os-x-mountain-lion/#comment-424141</link>
		<dc:creator>OBAMA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 18:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO BE SAFE :

1) DON&#039;T USE ADOBE FLASH
2) DON&#039;T USE ADOBE ACROBAT READER
3) DON&#039;T USE JAVA
4) DON&#039;T USE MICROSOFT OFFICE
5) DON&#039;T USE INTERNET CONNECTION
6) DON&#039;T USE...what else ?

YOU CAN SHUT DOWN YOUR MAC ALSO, FOR ETERNITY...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO BE SAFE :</p>
<p>1) DON&#8217;T USE ADOBE FLASH<br />
2) DON&#8217;T USE ADOBE ACROBAT READER<br />
3) DON&#8217;T USE JAVA<br />
4) DON&#8217;T USE MICROSOFT OFFICE<br />
5) DON&#8217;T USE INTERNET CONNECTION<br />
6) DON&#8217;T USE&#8230;what else ?</p>
<p>YOU CAN SHUT DOWN YOUR MAC ALSO, FOR ETERNITY&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bikorchi</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2012/08/01/install-java-in-os-x-mountain-lion/#comment-422583</link>
		<dc:creator>bikorchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know the offline link to downloading Java SE 6 Runtime for ML? It&#039;s nice to have it offline for reinstallation purposes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know the offline link to downloading Java SE 6 Runtime for ML? It&#8217;s nice to have it offline for reinstallation purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://osxdaily.com/2012/08/01/install-java-in-os-x-mountain-lion/#comment-421196</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 17:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what I get in response to &quot;java -version&quot;. Does this mean I do have java?

java version &quot;1.6.0_33&quot;
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_33-b03-424-11M3720)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.8-b03-424, mixed mode)

Either way DTS is still requesting that I install Java.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what I get in response to &#8220;java -version&#8221;. Does this mean I do have java?</p>
<p>java version &#8220;1.6.0_33&#8243;<br />
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_33-b03-424-11M3720)<br />
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.8-b03-424, mixed mode)</p>
<p>Either way DTS is still requesting that I install Java.</p>
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